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#20034
what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
can anybody help me work out what key this song is in?

I really like it and i wanted to experiment with playing some chords over the top and am hoping that if i can find out the key i could perhaps put some of my theory to work....

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#20046
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Pretty sure its in D
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Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Cool, thanks. Sending some karma
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#20049
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
An easy way to find out is to play your 6th string on each fret till you find the note that matches (is in harmony with) what they are playing. I ran down and found it in D.
If your ear is not trained well enough yet, then put your tuner next to the speaker and see what you get.

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#20075
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
I don't think it's in D

The little piano riff is A# A# G# F# D# (rpt), which is more like the key of B.

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Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
reiver wrote:
I don't think it's in D

The little piano riff is A# A# G# F# D# (rpt), which is more like the key of B.

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I agree, the key of B. When I strum a B chord over it it seems to fit right in. The relative minor would be Gm.

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#20126
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
I should have said G#m, if you play the B and G#m they both sound like they fit in. Try going from B to G#m.

The chords in the key of B are; B, C#m, D#m, E, F#, G#m, A#dim. Try these chords and see how they work.

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#20157
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
brilliant, thanks Ric. Karma for you too!
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#20161
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Then why does it fit very nicely when I played it in D?
D# actually....
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#20165
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Im assuming that question is for Ric because my theory sucks!
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#20166
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Ric or Suzanne. She is the TG theory teacher right?
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#20177
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
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Then why does it fit very nicely when I played it in D?
D# actually....


Andy, D# or D#m? D#m is in the key. What other chords are you using?

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Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Andy, do I have to come in there and remove the karma you got for getting it wrong?!
Karma wars, here we come!
No, seriously, this is really hard to hear. That D is a Dm# to my ear and I find myself playing a G# and A# in the main part too (Reiver's hearing those too). But, what do I know! Ric may be much closer, as a keyboarder, he's going to get this better than with guitar.
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Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
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Andy, do I have to come in there and remove the karma you got for getting it wrong?!
Karma wars, here we come!
No, seriously, this is really hard to hear. That D is a Dm# to my ear and I find myself playing a G# and A# in the main part too (Reiver's hearing those too). But, what do I know! Ric may be much closer, as a keyboarder, he's going to get this better than with guitar.


I hear the G# also, Chris, I just hear it as a minor chord as opposed to a major chord. I'll have to give the A# a try, perhaps it is borrowed from a nearby key.

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#20194
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
This is where the Circle of Fifths can come in really handy, I think. It shows that the keys of B (rel min = G#m) has 5 sharps, the key of F# (rel min D#m) has 6. They are very close key signatures, and so have many chords in common. I haven't listened to the song nor tried to figure out the key, but based on all of the notes/chords being thrown out it seems like this is likely the F#/D#m pair -- if it feels like it resolves to the note D#, you have the likely answer. Another possible test: which of these notes -- E or F -- fits with the song? 'E' suggests the B/G#m pair, 'F' suggests F#/D#m.

These are, funny enough, the same keys we were bantering back and forth in the other thread of Matt's where he was looking for the key for a lead riff he had.

Hope that helps...
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#20195
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
... in search of the lost chord....
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#20196
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
rcsnydley wrote:
I should have said G#m, if you play the B and G#m they both sound like they fit in. Try going from B to G#m.

The chords in the key of B are; B, C#m, D#m, E, F#, G#m, A#dim. Try these chords and see how they work.

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Based on my admittedly limited understanding of theory, I would have thought the chords in the key of B would be B, Cminor, Dminor, E, F, Gminor, and Adim. Why are the sharps added to C, D, F, G and Adim? Actually, don't answer that, I will take it upon myself to figure that out on my own.
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Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
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This is where the Circle of Fifths can come in really handy, I think. It shows that the keys of B (rel min = G#m) has 5 sharps, the key of F# (rel min D#m) has 6. They are very close key signatures, and so have many chords in common. I haven't listened to the song nor tried to figure out the key, but based on all of the notes/chords being thrown out it seems like this is likely the F#/D#m pair -- if it feels like it resolves to the note D#, you have the likely answer. Another possible test: which of these notes -- E or F -- fits with the song? 'E' suggests the B/G#m pair, 'F' suggests F#/D#m.

These are, funny enough, the same keys we were bantering back and forth in the other thread of Matt's where he was looking for the key for a lead riff he had.

Hope that helps...


I hear B, G#m, D#m chords and when I play notes it is B, C#, D#, E, F#, G#.

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#20226
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
jayswett wrote:
rcsnydley wrote:
I should have said G#m, if you play the B and G#m they both sound like they fit in. Try going from B to G#m.

The chords in the key of B are; B, C#m, D#m, E, F#, G#m, A#dim. Try these chords and see how they work.

Ric


Based on my admittedly limited understanding of theory, I would have thought the chords in the key of B would be B, Cminor, Dminor, E, F, Gminor, and Adim. Why are the sharps added to C, D, F, G and Adim? Actually, don't answer that, I will take it upon myself to figure that out on my own.


Jay, did you figure this out?

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#20227
Re:what key is this in? 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Not yet. Just got home from work.
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